Wait a moment, co-player, what are you getting another ship for? Did we need a ship? It doesn't seem like it'd be useful at all in this session.

The center of the universe is dangerous, isn't it? With an extra ship we can split up when we get to that juncture, this'll act as a failsafe so that we can reach fortuna even if our visit to the center of the universe goes bad. Getting another ship also allows us to recruit potentially useful crew members if we come across any. Well, if we come across more than one, anyway. That is, without sending any of our current crew members away and costing us morale. On top of that, we don't have a lot of ships available at the moment and I wouldn't mind unlocking a new one in the spirit of planning ahead.

Explain to me this then co-player. Which one of us in going to the center of the universe? When we split up you won't be able to see or hear what I'm doing, and I won't be able to hear or see what you're doing. Clearly I need to go to the center of the universe because I want to, and you need to go to the center of the universe because you need to speak with the limbo god. There's only one ship that can get us there. Do the math co-player, someone one is going to need to watch over the other ship unless you want a large risk of it getting blown up when we're not looking! I predict the middle of the universe will count as our 4th planet. The 5th planet is Fortuna. Do you think a ship will be able to make that Fortuna roll without help?

I didn't realize you were so eager to visit the center of the universe, Athena. My apologies. I suppose we could still sell the ship and take its AI.

Yes that sounds like a good idea, but seeing as you have already ordered the ship let us see what the ship is and then decide on our actions. No matter what it is a free ship. If we use it that's fine, if we destroy it for a huge amount of scrap I'm all in as well.

Hey, speaking of carrying over in the next universe. Do any of you know of an item that would let you guys do that? Or maybe a way for you to temporarily gain dominion over the aspect of Death, which might allow you to carry over with your memories intact? Can't Mors just save a file of them or something?

Co-player, just before the universe ends, the new universe is created. In this short amount of time both universes exist. Mors and any other space rippers are able to escape to the next universe, along with anyone who can sneak past, or are allowed through these holes. If you attempt to sneak in the others will try to kill you as you were suppose to die with the universe in the last game. If you ask enough or if you do a few favors you might be able to be allowed a free pass to the next universe, no murder involved.

But co-player, you must understand. For every god that gets through to the next universe, a god must die. The Hermes and Mors of the new universes are almost always killed because the Hermes and Mors of the last universe come in. There cannot be more then one of the same god as it causes major issues. The power that the god has compiles on the universe.

With two Helioses every star system would become a binary star. The amount of devastation that would happen due to twice as many stars in the universe would be unheard of.

And while we could all just kill our other selves to avoid the fallout due to two of us existing, is it right to do it? It is like murdering a newly born child so that an old man on his death bed could live. It becomes a sick ritual after awhile. The more you keep living, the less you care about life. Dying is horrible, but stagnating might just be worse. Only certain people can live for many universes and not go mad, and have you seen the few that don't like Mors? Mors wants to destroy the universe permanently to stop its constant reincarnation. If that doesn't tell you something then I don't know want to tell you.

A longer lifespan is a blessing. True immortality is a punishment.

Oh... well moving topics, do you think there might still be a chance to find Hades and Persephone? I'm not exactly sure anyone's fond of Cronus being in charge right now... erm, right? How're things going over there anyway?

I personally think Cronus is a fine ruler. He's brought a new golden age to the universe and has stabilized a lot of issues.

He is quite dedicated to his work and he tends to listen to our woes. I would say he's one of the best rulers we had other then the issues of the very obvious crimes he commits against those of younger blood.

Children are very special things in games. Normally you cannot kill them even if you tried. Cronus is one of the only beings able to break that rule.

Does the end justify the means? That is for you to decide, but I will tell you that Cronus doesn't seem to be working on saving the universe, just giving it a peaceful death in the hopes that you will do the right thing next universe and at least delete all your characters and achievements so that the plague does not follow you in to the next universe. I am not sure giving Hades the stress of suddenly becoming leader and dealing with this is what he would want. Most of the gods have no hope in this universe.

As for finding Hades I don't think there is a way to find him. He had a certain set of powers that allowed him to blend in perfectly with just about any situation. If we find him it'll likely be by accident.

He's a master of disguise! There's a chance we've already met him. He's even been known to disguise himself as fashionable clothes. Unless you want to ask every hat you see if it's the great Hades I say we have no chance.

Erm... a bit late on the ask but, should I be worried about the Echidna-Kelda situation? Like, the chance of a being like Kelda discovering the reality of this universe? Since the Echidna AI is... or was? A 1st Gen AI.

I can't make heads or tails about that situation! I don't think I've ever heard of a case where living being and an AI are fused.

Well there is-

I was attempting to avoid talking about "them" Helios! They weren't quite fused anyway. They just are a living being that is labeled as a first gen. Now lets change subjects before "they" hear us and we get a few marks on our record.

Oh and speaking of Limbo Gods, you were working on some plans for getting us to The Helper, right Athena? Sorry I haven't been focusing on that, you may have noticed I get distracted easily.

It's fine, I do in fact have a plan.
Step 1. Survive till the 4th planet.
Step 2. Fly in to the middle of the universe.
Step 3. Land in the Helper's domain and confidently walk up to her.
Step 4. ??????

This is embarrassing but I never finished step 4. Everything I come up with isn't perfect. It has to be perfect but these are limbo god we're talking about! These gods could kill us in one touch. They could shatter reality if they willed it! The Helper is the nicest limbo god of them all and even she might kill us!

Instead of coming up with a plan, maybe you just need education so that you can figure out what to do when you get there. In fact, you need education on all the limbo gods. Granted, I don't know too much about them, but I can give you all the info me, Nike, and some other gods have been gathering. You know all the code names of the gods right?

The Neo, the Sleeper, the Singer, the Helper, the Mirage, the Radical, the Creator, the Poetnix, and the Divided. Are there any questions you have about any of these or the Limbo gods in general?

Yeah. What do you know about the Divided?

What do you think? Nearly nothing. I have gotten rumors that the Singer will lead you to the Divided if you wish. I also heard that the Divided has been weakened somehow. It's possible it was from a fight with the Neo. The Divided and the Neo are enemies. Always fighting. The Divided is the second most powerful limbo god. At least before what ever weakened it.

About the Neo, well, is there even a silver of a chance that that alligator is going to help us?

Laughable!

The Neo lives to kill. The Neo might be able to destroy the Sun God by itself, but I don't see the Neo lifting a claw for this situation. We would need to almost kill it to get it to listen to us. Only one first gen has done that.

The first gen of flesh and blood. They did it by mistake when the Neo went up to them in its weakest form to spy upon some death. The first gen of flesh and blood, who at the time wasn't even a god! They snapped up the Neo and nearly killed it, but the Neo made a deal. The Neo gave them great power, the powers of the gods in turn for freedom. The deal was taken, and the Neo was freed.

The issue with killing the Neo is the fact that many stories point to needing to want the whole universe dead to kill the Neo. Every single atom, every single fiber, you must want it dead, for the Neo is the universe. It's said if you even want one thing in the universe to live you will hold back, and that's when the Neo will kill you.

Though I have heard an almost never told story about the Neo. That if one, truely loves, or at least believes in the betterment of everything in the universe, they will be able to kill the Neo and make the perfect universe. Of course, as anyone who knows the origin story of the limbo gods knows, the perfect universe is likely the worst idea ever. There should always be some conflict in the universe, a perfect universe cannot be one without conflict. It is impossible. If you don't know about the origin story, how about I tell you on our way to see the Helper? It seems like it'll be highly relevant at that time.

Sure thing Athena, hey if the Helper is going to help by herself at any point, I imagine any other Limbo gods that aren't in for the sun god killing business are going to retaliate over their broken agreement?

They don't have an agreement co-player. Limbo gods don't make deals, or more like, they don't keep deals. If you think you can make a limbo god follow a deal you created with it, you'd be wrong. They're the most powerful beings in the universe by a long shot. When you're like that you don't need any honor.